Mars Explorer "host cam" bug
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...and how to fix it
Submitted By admin on 09/04/07
Mars Explorer, admin, Documents, Other
This Document originally posted in the "Mars Explorer" Group
Update 2: I just isolated this problem - and it is a bug with the latest Unity player, not Mars Explorer. I am collaborating with Unity 3D on this - but for now, downgrading your Unity player from 2.5 to 2.1 will solve the problem. To downgrade, replace /Macintosh HD/Library/Internet Plugins/Unity Web Player.plugin with This Plugin File (unzip it first), and restart your browser. (Windows users: a fix for you is in the works)...
Update: Instead of the files I mentioned earlier, try deleting the entire folder titled "Unity" in your user account's library folder. This is a much more complicated bug than I though it would be, but I am almost sure that this will fix it...
After hearing reports that playing 1.9.5 caused many users to experience games from the server host's ride view and not their own - I was puzzled about what could be causing this.
I still am.
However, the most likely cause of something like this would be a camera preference set by 1.9.5 that earlier versions of the game can't handle.
If you are experiencing this problem - and are on a Mac, please try deleting the following files on your computer (which will restore Mars Explorer's in-game settings to their defaults):
/Users/ {Your OS X User Name} /Library/Preferences/unity.ATI Design.Mars Explorer.plist
/Users/ {Your OS X User Name} /Library/Preferences/com.Aubrey Falconer.Mars Explorer.plist
(Advanced Windows users shouldn't have a problem finding where Unity stores Mars Explorer's pref files on their computers)
Restart your browser, and let me know if the problem still persists!
-Aubrey
» Reply to CommentRe:
thedude
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2009/04/07 - 20:24 GMT
I am a windows user, but have no clue where marsxplr's pref files are, I just searched my puter, and no luck finding anything close to that, i uninstalled unity, scanned every file on my puter, shut it off, restarted it, no luck.
Try looking in "%APPDATA%UnityWebPlayerPrefs" - searching for any one of those folder names should find something...
hey aubrey
i can just find:
unity.Tonio Loewald.Prototype.plist
and i can "not" find this file:
com.Aubrey Falconer.Mars Explorer.plist
can i delete the first file to playin 1.9?
best regards
hmm - deleting the "unity.Tonio Loewald.Prototype.plist" file definitely won't help, but if you can find anything about Mars Explorer in your library folder - there's a good chance that deleting it will fix the problem.
it's very odd...seeing it spread through versions even. Very odd. However, i think it is "stored" in the person's computer sort of speak otherwise it would travel versions right? It's never happened to me, thank God after i had to get a new hard drive and all. Once you isolate the problem, it would be kinda cool to have it be a FUNCTIONAL cam OPTION in servers.
are these files the probleme?:
/Users/ {Your OS X User Name} /Library/Preferences/Unity/WebPlayerPrefs/fun_2etheati_2enet/ prefgames-data-25-download-mars_5fexplorer_5f1_2e7-marsexplorer_2eunity3d.upp
/Users/ {Your OS X User Name} /Library/Preferences/Unity/WebPlayerPrefs/prefgames-data-25-marsexplorer_2eunity3d.upp
/Users/ {Your OS X User Name} /Library/Preferences/Unity/WebPlayerPrefs/prefgames-data-25-download-mars_5fexplorer_5f1_2e9-marsexplorer_2eunity3d.upp
can i delete it?
» Reply to CommentRe: "Host Cam" bug
OK. I deleted the file in pic #1
but could not find this /Users/ {Your OS X User Name} /Library/Preferences/unity.ATI Design.Mars Explorer.plist even after typing it into the finder window search box .
The second two pictures are of what's left in the unity folder of my Mac's user's library folder.
and the last pic inside localhost folder has my user name trimmed off of the front...
I restarted Safari, cleared cache and went directly to 1.9 and joined 2 different games and still had the host cam bug in both.
Before all this happened, I downloaded the app for Mac then trashed it because of crashes and have played in browser since. I started playing at first with the widget months ago. I even trashed unity and re-downloaded it a couple of days ago, cleared Safari cache, and , as I said before, I did a rain dance with rattles and grass skirt :)
What to do next?
I even saw a game in 1.9 yesterday called "HELP - I HAVE A CAMERA GLITCH!"
OK I just trashed everything unity in my Library folder, restarted my computer, reset the P ram X3 cycles, launched Safari, cleared Safari cache, went directly to 1.9, typed my name, joined a game and got Observe mode with right mouse click or 1 key. All other cameras respond properly to number keys and/or buttons on game screen. All my other preferences came up default - Music, Chase, Fantastic, which is different that I set them originally so preferences have been reset.
Kruncher;
Observe mode in your vehicle - or in the host's?
Are you still experiencing the bug - or is the bug fixed?
» Reply to CommentReply to Aubrey's question
If I join 1.9 or 1.91 I get my Observe Mode or host cam with right click or 1 key.
If I host 1.9 or 1.91 I get my cam1 or my Observe Mode with right click or 1 key.
I haven't tried 1.94 lately but deleting unity folder didn't help there either.
Last night I joined in 1.95 and got my Observe mode with right click or 1 key. Repeat - 1.95
Entire Unity folder deleted from library>1.9 or 1.91>bug
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What about all those poor players that don't even know there IS a home site? (Rhetorical) I'd say that comprises about 90% of all players.
I searched for the windows file, but nothing came up, so I just cleared all of my firefox downloads, re-installed unity, and restarted my computer. And hurrah! My camera views were back to normal. :D Thanks, aubrey.
» Reply to CommentIBCF - GEEZE if it worked!...
Why not leave instructions for clearing Firefox downloads?
» Reply to CommentRe: IBCF - GEEZE if it worked!...
There's not much to it, actually. All you need to do is reinstall unity player.
I know this works for clearing out IE, not sure about FF, you can try it. It's like resetting Safari without Safari. :p I also do not know if it works on Vista. Go to the "Run" command window and type in "inetcpl.cpl" (Without the quotes, of course). Go to "Browsing History>Delete>Delete all." That should clear you out faster than a stick o' dynamite. Whether or not it will work...IDK. If the setting is a cookie or temp. file it should. Mmmm...cookies!
I m not really sure how to do that stuff so i am gana wait for avi to help me! lol i m not that great with puters !
but thanks Aubrey for posting this!:)
~Lizzle
» Reply to CommentRe: temp
hi aubrey,
about my temperature problem: when i use fullscreen since the 1.9.5 bug i have a gpu temperature over 80°c and the fans running over 4500 rpm in all versions! (i use fancontrol)
before the 1.9.5 bug i had only 73°c and 3500 in the 1.9 version
i cant play the new versions with this temperature :(
» Reply to CommentRe: temp
Hmm - I just developed a fan speed of 6000 RPM and a GPU diode temp of 70ºc on my MacBook Pro while watching a several minute youtube video. Is 80ºc really all that bad?
Are you running at the same game quality setting as in previous versions (you may very well be able to support a higher quality setting with all the new optimizations) - and what happens when you reduce the quality level a bit?
» Reply to CommentRe: temp
idk but iam fearfully because i had a melted gpu on my motherboard befor a few months.
but the temperature was never over 100°c
therefore i use fancontrol now
my fancontrol basespeed is 1800rpm
lower threshold 55°C for cpu
upper threshold 81°C for cpu, gpu becomes a little hotter
thats a good climate to work and play B-)
i am playing in simple mode with 49fps
and when i go to fullscreen my fans runnin faster and faster up to 5000rpm
i ever played 1.9 with 73°c and 3500rpm.
» Reply to CommentRe: temp
I can understand that you would want your computer to run cooler, and I just added a FPS cap to 1.9.6 (to be released very soon) which should allow you to specify exactly how hard you want your computer to work on rendering the game - and therefore how much heat it should generate.
The reason that 1.9.5 generates more heat is probably because it is so optimized that it gets much higher framerates out of your machine, and therefore puts more work on the graphics card.
» Reply to CommentEDIT - How to stay de -bugged- Mac only - Sorry
Downgrading Unity plugin worked! Thanks Aubrey!
Here is how to play all versions with no Camera bug.
1. Delete 1.95 bookmark/shortcut so you don't visit 1.95 with browser by habit and re-bug your camera.
2. On Mac, follow Aubrey's instructions for downgrading unity.
3. Click this link Mac to download the app for 1.95
4. Prevent Cam bug by NEVER visiting 1.95 with your browser until Aubrey posts that the bug in Unity has been fixed. Use browser for all other versions.
» Reply to CommentRe: EDIT - How to stay de -bugged- Mac only - Sorry
k :) i never visit 1.9.5 like point 4. :)
» Reply to CommentBug persists..
There must be some unity thingy hiding in my beloved Mac. Should I get some sort of app zapper?
I did exactly as your update says with no progress. I did get a frame rate of 144 fps on "Good" in 1.9 which, for me, is usually around 45-70. Below is a paste of my comment from yesterday.
OK I just trashed everything unity in my Library folder, restarted my computer, reset the P ram X3 cycles, launched Safari, cleared Safari cache, went directly to 1.9, typed my name, joined a game and got Observe mode with right mouse click or 1 key. All other cameras respond properly to number keys and/or buttons on game screen. All my other preferences came up default - Music, Chase, Fantastic, which is different that I set them originally so preferences have been reset.
» Reply to CommentRe: HELP!
Aubrey, nothing is working, I can't find any file matching what you say, at all.
» Reply to CommentStill bugged
As of tonight, it's no longer just a host cam bug. I went to 1.91, started a game (me as host) and got my buggy's Observe mode with right click or 1 key. All other cams matched appropriate input.
I've been searching for the old unity on my windows and reinstalling it. The problem is that every time I go to 1.95, the update installs itself and I have to redo the process...
» Reply to CommentRe: only had it happen to me...
i only had this problem happen in 1.9 to 1.9.4, it works fine for me in 1.9.5
for me to in 1.9.5 but this version sucks! to slow buggy i cant land and drive on water, the buggy is to slow under water, the control is very slippery, but the water looks cool :)
cu later
go and get your computer fixed at a shop and stop complaining to us we all know you have a problem so shut up and get it fixed
His computer has a problem that shops will not fix, YOU shut up
if you had read one of his posts a while back he said that something was wrong on his computer which was something that could have been fixed (Fly: "i have a macbookpro and i had a motherboard broken") now tell me that this can not be fixed or not.
» Reply to CommentSTILL BUGGED!
STILL BUGGED!
» Reply to CommentRe: Mars Explorer
thx aubrey!
it works when u put the file into: /Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Internet Plugins/
now i can play 1.9 for ever :) :) :) :) :) :)
» Reply to CommentRe: Mars Explorer
But fly, you have to play me in 1.95 sometimes.
» Reply to CommentRe: Mars Explorer
lol 1.9.5 is the reason for the cam bug :) i never play the new version ;)
cu in 1.9!!!!!
fly - 1.9 is such slow flying - Get the application for Mars Explorer to play 1.95 then it won't bug your cam.
It works for me. I can play 1.95 on the app then 1.9 on browser but I can't keep going back there to fight you. You must visit MY turf sometimes!
» Reply to CommentRe: FLY!
do u mean the widget?
i sometimes play the 1.9 widget when im offline..
what app do u mean? 1.9.5 widget?
i am very fast in the 1.9 version: 80-100mph all the time.. bzz bzz come and get me -8B
» Reply to CommentRe: FLY!
fly - Not Widget. Mars Explorer is available as a Mac Application. This will not bug your camera because you don't use a browser. I don't know what temperature it will run.
» Reply to CommentRe: Mars Explorer
There is a fix for windows users, just uninstall unity with your windows uninstaller, then install again at the link below, and the issue should be fixed. Remember, do not re-install Unity 2.5, re-install 2.1 at the link below, thank you. I think this can also be done for Mac users as well.
^
Install that to fix your problem windows users and possibly mac users
» Reply to CommentAll Versions Bug Free! - How to
Here is how to play all versions with no Camera bug
1. Delete 1.95 bookmark/shortcut so you don't visit 1.95 with browser by habit and re-bug your camera.
2. Read Dude's comment above this one then follow Aubrey's instructions here>Update 2: I just isolated this problem - and it is a bug with the latest Unity player, not Mars Explorer. I am collaborating with Unity 3D on this - but for now, downgrading your Unity player from 2.5 to 2.1 will solve the problem. To downgrade, replace /Macintosh HD/Library/Internet Plugins/Unity Web Player.plugin with This Plugin File(unzip it first), and restart your browser. (Windows users: a fix for you is in the works)...
3. BEFORE PLAYING ANY VERSION, click this link Mac Windows to download the app for 1.95 then, drag Mars Explorer 
into your applications folder and right click on the dock icon then choose "Keep in dock"
into your applications folder and right click on the dock icon then choose "Keep in dock"4. Prevent Cam bug by NEVER visiting 1.95 with your browser until Aubrey posts that the bug in Unity has been fixed. Use browser for all other versions.
5. (added)> To summarize, play 1.95 ONLY with the downloaded application and play all other versions with browser. No cam bug! :)
